William Bell of allthingsfulfilled.com will be joining Sam and Jason this Sunday night to discuss dispensationalism, zionism, the state of modern Israel and what her role is, if any, in Biblical Prophecy.
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Awesome guest and topic! Thanks
Should make for an interesting show; see you all there.
This was a great show. It's a tough issue, but hopefully this discussion will begin to push us in the right direction. We must understand what the political implications of Preterism would bring to the world.
The other aspect, not so much covered here, is that the concept of “spiritual Israel” (the Church) can only be supported through a full preterism hermeneutic. You cannot have the idea of the “one body” made up of Jews and Gentiles, and a yet unfilled people (modern Jewry) awaiting fulfillment in terms of biblical prophecy. If, in fact, Israel “according to the flesh” has been done away with, the only solution is Full Preterism.
I say this because in Reformed theology, you have “spiritual Israel” (the Church) with some vague as-yet-to-be-fulfilled prophecies concerning Israel. This cannot be supported from Scripture. What this, in effect, does is cut off the promises made to fleshly Israel (“theirs are the promises” – Romans 9.3) and applies them to the Church – meaning that Israel “according to the flesh” never obtained her promises -God's word failed. Yet, we find Paul saying, “all Israel shall be saved” and “only a remnant shall be saved”.
By dealing with the question, “Who is Israel?”, the Full Preterist view can really make a sound case, and, in fact, the only case that would make sense.
This was a great show. It's a tough issue, but hopefully this discussion will begin to push us in the right direction. We must understand what the political implications of Preterism would bring to the world.
The other aspect, not so much covered here, is that the concept of “spiritual Israel” (the Church) can only be supported through a full preterism hermeneutic. You cannot have the idea of the “one body” made up of Jews and Gentiles, and a yet unfilled people (modern Jewry) awaiting fulfillment in terms of biblical prophecy. If, in fact, Israel “according to the flesh” has been done away with, the only solution is Full Preterism.
I say this because in Reformed theology, you have “spiritual Israel” (the Church) with some vague as-yet-to-be-fulfilled prophecies concerning Israel. This cannot be supported from Scripture. What this, in effect, does is cut off the promises made to fleshly Israel (“theirs are the promises” – Romans 9.3) and applies them to the Church – meaning that Israel “according to the flesh” never obtained her promises -God's word failed. Yet, we find Paul saying, “all Israel shall be saved” and “only a remnant shall be saved”.
By dealing with the question, “Who is Israel?”, the Full Preterist view can really make a sound case, and, in fact, the only case that would make sense.